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Breaking: Patriot Missiles Seized, Sold To China by IsraHell (Updates)

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Iron Dome Defense Missiles Seized by Finland, Labeled “Fireworks”

69 Newest Patriot Missiles Bound For Reds

“…Thorco Shipping representative, Thomas Mikkelsen said he was unaware any such cargo was on board his vessel”…a statement that categorically “debunks” attempts at denial – Editor)

       …by Gordon Duff,  Senior Editor

Latest update from today’s Washington Post:

Finland says cargo ship can sail again, but without its 69 missiles, explosives or it’s Ukrainian captain

 

HELSINKI — “A British-registered ship (editor’s correction, ship is not “British-registered”) that was held in a Finnish port after authorities discovered 69 surface-to-air [Anti-ballistic]missiles and 160 tons of explosives onboard has permission to travel again, but without those materials or its captain, a port official said Monday.

The M/S Thor Liberty was headed to China and had docked in the southern Finnish port of Kotka to pick up anchor chains when police last week discovered and seized the missiles and explosive piric acid on board.”

Finnish authorities have confirmed the seizure of 69 Patriot missiles manufactured by Raytheon Corporation today.

(A popular graphic going viral on the internet, edited to eliminate an inappropriate ethnic reference)

During a routine search of the MS Thor Liberty, a ship flagged by the Isle of Man, at the Finnish port of Kotka, authorities found 69 Patriot missiles of a type capable of intercepting ICBMs, the most modern available and America’s most sensitive military technology.

Update:  The official publication of the shipping industry, The Maritime Executive states:

“Finnish police launched a probe on a ship bound for Shanghai, China, after they discovered 69 surface-to-air Patriot missiles, explosive materials, and propelling charges illegally aboard. “  Note, what had been called by some “chemicals” are now “propelling charges.”  What they propel, of course, are guided missiles from nuclear submarines and plutonium and uranium components into contact to inititate nuclear explosions.

Germany officials have offered to take responsibility for the shipment to China though there is no record of Germany ever having received the missiles in the first place.  There had been a shipment of PAC 2 missiles, 64, several months ago, which had been completed.  No further shipment had been scheduled. 

Germany is responding to a request from Netanyahu to Merkel to save Israel from a potential spy scandal.Similarly, a South Korean paper has published a story about the missiles but at no time has the South Korean embassy in Helsinki, made a statement or made contact with authorities as would be expected.  This one gets more interesting every day.

Germany has a long history of working with Israel, call it “war guilt” or profiteering.  The centrifuges used to develop nuclear weapons that were distributed by Israel, first to South Africa then by Israeli Johann Meyer to Libya were of Germany origin.  Saddam Hussein received his biological and chemical warfare equipment from Germany, but through Bush family sources, not Israel. 

We are told the missiles heading to China were to be “cloned” for sale along with radar and launch units, already there.  They would be sold worldwide under Israeli branding in competition with the US.  Israel is free to sell to clients the US would be likely to refuse. 

The JA 20 Stealth fighter, built from plans stolen by Bush era White House Israeli “dual-citizens” is only one of dozens of defense projects stolen by Israeli spies and sent to China.  China has every current nuclear weapons design and plans to upgrade its submarine fleet and will be building aircraft carriers eventually.  All will be done with American technology.

Here is the photo of the ship’s ‘very special’ explosives in shrink wrapped cardboard boxes. Do you really think this is how western Allied/NATO countries transport munitions, or would allow hugely expensive anti-ballistic missiles to be put on a ship like this? If there was a detonation device in one of these boxes that could set it off (like with a satellite phone call), it would go up like an A-bomb. No one would have been looking for the 69 Patriot ABM’s listed as rockets or firecrackers. There is one rouge country’s Intelligence service, an American ally, that could do this in it’s sleep because it had extensive practice while building it’s WMD programs, the details of which our America government still holds secret from Americans.

Attempts to represent this as a sale of “second hand” PAC 2 missiles, stories filling the blogosphere, fail to address that these are PAC 3 advanced missiles and labeled for shipment to China, not Korea.

Patriot ICBM Interceptor – PAC3

The next stop for this cargo, valued at over $4 billion even without the associated radar, which may well have been shipped via some other method, was Shanghai, China.

Yet the Chinese government has given an official denial of any knowledge of this transaction.They went even further, they claimed the missiles were heading to South Korea.

However, were China to have given the issue a second’s thought, it would have been advisable to have failed to acknowledge any familiarity with the issue whatsoever.

China walked into a trap, one that uncovered their espionage cooperation agreements that involved, not the receipt of advanced Patriot missile systems but the full plans for the F22 stealth fighter.

Initial stories from 2009 indicating China has received plans for the F35 though espionage with Israel were false.

The F22 is a far more advanced aircraft.

 

On April 21, 2009, the Department of Defense announced the theft of 1.5 terabytes of data on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the platform meant give the United States and her allies air superiority for the next 40 years.

In a flash, all that was gone, $300 billion dollars of funding down the drain, every system, defense, offense, stealth, everything needed to build one or shoot it down, all gone. Day one, China was accused but it wasn’t China, it wasn’t Iran, it wasn’t Pakistan.

The theft left a clear signature, one identical to the data Wikileaks has been receiving, sources inside the Pentagon repeating the actions of Israeli-Soviet spy, Jonathan Pollard.  As vital as the F-35 is to America’s defense, Pollard’s triumph on behalf of Soviet Russia and Israel dwarfs the current espionage coup.

Since the 2009 announcement, there has been nothing but silence.

Now we learn the Pentagon story was “cover” and it was the F22 Raptor, not the F35, an “export plane,” that was compromised:

F-22A Raptors – America Top Fighter

The Lockheed Martin/Boeing F-22 Raptor is a single-seat, twin-engine fifth-generation super maneuverable fighter aircraft that uses stealth technology.

It was designed primarily as an air superiority fighter, but has additional capabilities that include ground attackelectronic warfare, and signals intelligence roles.[6]

Lockheed Martin Aeronautics is the prime contractor and is responsible for the majority of the airframe, weapon systems and final assembly of the F-22.

Program partnerBoeing Defense, Space & Security provides the wings, aft fuselage, avionics integration, and training systems.The aircraft was variously designated F-22 and F/A-22 during the years prior to formally entering USAF service in December 2005 as the F-22A.

Despite a protracted and costly development period, the United States Air Force considers the F-22 a critical component of US tactical air power, and claims that the aircraft is unmatched by any known or projected fighter.[7]

While Lockheed Martin claims that the Raptor’s combination of stealth, speed, agility, precision and situational awareness, combined with air-to-air and air-to-ground combat capabilities, makes it the best overall fighter in the world today.[8]

Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, former Chief of the Australian Defence Force, said in 2004 that the “F-22 will be the most outstanding fighter plane ever built.”[9]

Raptor Formation

The high cost of the aircraft, a lack of clear air-to-air combat missions because of delays in the Russian and Chinese fifth-generation fighter programs, a US ban on Raptor exports, and the ongoing development of the planned cheaper and more versatile F-35 resulted in calls to end F-22 production.[N 1]

In April 2009 the US Department of Defense proposed to cease placing new orders, subject to Congressional approval, for a final procurement tally of 187 Raptors.[11] The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010 lacked funding for further F-22 production.

The final F-22 Raptor fighter jet rolled off the assembly line on 13 December 2011 during a ceremony at the Lockheed Martin aircraft plant at Dobbins Air Reserve Base.[2]

China is testing a 5th generation fighter, 20 years earlier than estimated, the JA 20.  It is based on systems from the Raptor and is considered a far superior plane to the F 35.From a January, 2011 Guardianstory suppressed in the United States:

Chinese F22 Raptor Clone, 20 Years Early

 

A photograph of what is reported to be a new Chinese stealth fighter and “carrier-killer” missile has prompted concerns that a tilt in the balance of military power in the western Pacific towards China may come sooner than expected.

The emergence of the hi-tech weaponry – which would make it more difficult for the US navy and air force to project power close to Taiwan and elsewhere on China’s coastline – comes at a politically sensitive time.

Later this month, President Barack Obama and his Chinese counterpart, Hu Jintao, will hold a summit in Washington aimed at patching up their differences after a niggling year in bilateral relations.

he photograph, of what appears to be a prototype J-20 jet undergoing initial tests, has been circulating on the internet since last week, fueling speculation that China’s fifth-generation fighter may fly ahead of forecast.(Attempts have been made to alter photos of the plane and misrepresent its “lineage.” The only alterations from the F22 seem to be the rear control surfaces.  What has been most telling is the attempt to misconstrue the JA 20 as a “large bodied” interceptor with a weapons bay for anti-ship missiles instead of the air superiority fighter it actually is. )

The defence ministry has yet to comment on the image, which seems to have been shot from long-distance near the Chengdu aircraft design institute. The photographer is also unknown, which has added to the mystery about its origins and authenticity as well as the motive of the distributor.

But defence analysts believe this is the first glimpse of the twin-engined, chiseled-nosed plane that mixes Russian engine technology with a fuselage design similar to that of the US air force’s F-22 “stealth” fighter, which can avoid detection by radar.

If confirmed, it would be an impressive step forward for the Chinese air force, which until now has largely depended on foreign-made or designed planes. “I’d say these are, indeed, genuine photos of a prototype that will make its maiden flight very soon,” said Peter Felstead, the editor of Jane’s Defence Weekly.

The J20 is likely to be many years from deployment, but the US defence secretary, Robert Gates – who visits Beijing next week – may have to revise an earlier prediction that China will not have a fifth generation aircraft by 2020.

It is not the only challenge to US superiority in the region. China has refurbished a Ukrainian aircraft carrier and wants to build its own by 2020.

Photo corrected from “stretch” version issued to mislead public

The US and Israel had scheduled an air defense exercise this week but no Patriot missiles were to be shipped to Israel as part of their mission, DOD sources indicate.

This week’s exercise was to use Patriot missiles deployed from American ships in the eastern Mediterranean to test Israeli missile defenses.  Reports indicate that all missiles for this exercise have been accounted for.

Patriots Away “

These units, the most advanced Patriot system had only been supplied to one nation, Israel.

The 69 Patriot ICBM interceptors are believed to be a highly secret consignment demanded by Israel as protection from any retaliatory strike by Iran were war to break out in the region.

Instead of deploying them, the missiles were apparently  sold to China labeled as “fireworks” according to Interior Minister Paivi Rasanen.

Though the missiles themselves were worth only $4 billion, the technology transfer itself would be worth over $125 billion, and represent a significant loss of defense capability for the United States.

Sources termed it, “An absolute disaster, even if they only received the radar systems alone, much less the missiles.That this would go unreported though the story was broken in Europe 48 hours ago is astounding.

Nobody in Washington has this although even the BBC reportcontains more than enough information to bring Washington to a halt.

DOD sources indicate that it would be unusual for these missiles to be moved without radar and launch facilities to have been moved in advance.   It was also indicated that the Department of Defense denies shipping any such missiles to Germany or anywhere else in Europe, labeled as “fireworks” or anything else.

The owner of the ship of record is Thorco Shipping.  Their representative, Thomas Mikkelsen said he was unaware any such cargo was on board his vessel.

Patriot Command Control Center

Claims were made that the missiles were destined for South Korea but an examination of documentation indicated that there were no South Korean ports scheduled.

Additionally, the likelihood that the US government would ship its most valuable and secret missile technology through Germany mislabeled as “fireworks” rather than on a C 17 under military security supports the Finnish claim.

Finnish police say they opened all 69 units, are recording serial numbers and have been unable to find any documentation indicating the real ownership of the  seized cargo.

And they certainly have found nothing involving the any of the claimed “cover stories” involving Germany or Korea, otherwise, of course, the cargo would never have been seized nor would there have been arrests made.

Detective Superintendent Timo Virtanen of the Finnish National Bureau of Investigation is in charge of the case.  He has stated:

 ”Actually, in our investigation at the moment, we have got the information that we found 69 Patriot missiles on the ship and around 160 tonnes of explosives.”

The explosives are identified as nitroguandine, a low sensitivity explosive with a very high detonation speed.   These explosives have several uses, among them launching shipboard or submarine launched missiles or in the development and testing of nuclear weapons design.

Finnish authorities indicate the explosives were packed in an “informal” and highly dangerous manner and that the Thor Liberty’s captain and chief officer are under arrest on suspicion of arms trafficking.  Both are citizens of the Ukraine.The government of China has denied all knowledge of the incident although the cargo was destined for their ports.

The head of Finnish Customs CID, Petri Louatmaa said this was not the first such incident but by far the most serious he has ever heard of.Finland has requested “information” from several countries.

The US Department of Defense has assured all involved that these missiles were not being sent to South Korea and that their presence on a civilian ship either being loaded in Germany or in port in Finland was in now way a part of any exercise nor any accepted methodology for the handling of this type of ultra-high technology weaponry.

American sources further indicated confusion at the odd number of missiles:

“There are two missiles per launch container.  The containers can’t be easily opened and the missiles can’t be removed for examination without damage to the launch mechanism.They are delivered for mounting to ships or land based mobile launchers.  Thus, the packaging indicated either demonstrates confusion or serious unprofessional tampering.”

Israeli officials have failed to respond to questions about the consignment.Air Force transport command personnel indicate that high tech transfers to Israel are routinely offloaded at Schipol Airport in the Netherlands where Israel maintains secure facilities.

Editing:  Jim W. Dean

Patriot PAC3s Are Shipped in Pairs – Ground to Air Patriots are Shipped With Lauchers


19 Responses to “Breaking: Patriot Missiles Seized, Sold To China by IsraHell (Updates)”

  1. George says:

    Sneaky backstabbing israelis

  2. jim moran says:

    friggin backstabbin kikes would sell their mother for $$$

  3. jo jo says:

    I have read that Israel is getting particularly cozy with Russia and China (selling military secrets). Perhaps Israel plans to use America for one more big war before it runs over to big red China and starts to infest their political system with stinky Israeli corruption. Use up your goyim and toss them aside? Say it ani’t so Bibi! We love being your machine gun monkeys! We don’t even mind when you steal our secrets. That is how much we love being manipulated by you! Just keep that AIPAC money flowing and you can do no wrong big boy! I’m going to bend over now so that you can ram your uncirmcumsized goat staff up my rectum. Thank you Bibi, may I have another?

  4. Robert Rubin says:

    Remember Hitler was killing American with American bullet in Second World War. Banker have no friend only money and profit. They sold to China and China sold to Iran to kill us back! This is a country all our politicians defend unconditional.

  5. Wink says:

    No qUestion that oUr Israel dick sUcking FRIENDS are responsible for this. When the hell are American citizens going to hang the Zionest fUther mUckers that rUn or government?

  6. m says:

    Best story of 2011

  7. Josef says:

    I would guess if I were the Finns I would miscount a missle to do a bit of afterhours reverse engineering on, or maybe sent one ahead as proof of quality of merchindise before getting paid. Then shipping so sloppy that the Chinese would not receive the end product anyway. Some heavy weather – rocking and rolliong and those boxes of high explosive and bye bye cargo ship.

  8. Steve says:

    Stinking backstabbing kikes!

  9. McLowery says:

    What’s the big deal? Those missile interceptors are a joke anyways! They’re all hype. The accuracy numbers are abysmal! Fuck Israel and fuck the Patriot missile!

  10. kaycee says:

    The one thing that i remember the most clearly over the past 39-40 years of my school days at Brandeis University in1970’s are my student adviser’s words that when he was growing up that his grand parents and parents used the term “‘goyishe kup,’” meaning that the “Non-Jews are Stupid”

    Later in life I learned that the exact translation of “GOYISHE KUP” means that the “Cattle are STUPID”..

    I remember him recalling whatt his father told him when he was growing up in Eastern Europe. One of them being that when his father was in high school he and a group of friends would skip school early on Fridays and go over to his friend’s father’s butcher shop. That they would buy at cost any cows , that had not been butchered by the end of the day on Friday before the begining of shabat . They would take the cow home and wash it and then the boys would procede to “beat the udders of the cows so that they would swell up and turn pink” so as to sell them to the “GOYISHE KUP” as milk producing cows.

    The part that I remember him asking me if the East Europeans are so naive, so gullible and so stupid to buy old “non milk producing cows” from a bunch of young Jewish Boys.

    So thinking of it now I agree with the Jewish saying that the “GOYISHE KUP” are indeed” Stupid” as they believe that a Bunch of Arab Muslim Kids who were not able to Fly a Cessna Airplane took it upon themselves to FLY a Boing Jumbo Jet outwitting the US Military and Civilian authorities. The “Jewish Lightning Insurance Scam” of the 1960’s is still alive and well has been put to good use by Larry Silverstein with the help of his sayanim jews made a financial killing in imploding wtc by putting 15 million down and comming out with 7 billion dollars for buidings that no one wanted to buy because it would have cost a billion dollars to remove the asbestos from. Then on top of that the people in America actually believe that they actually decide who is elected President or for that that actual VOTE is really counted and makes a difference in deciding who represents them in the White House and congress. http://www.bollyn.com/index.php
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVTXbARGXso http://www.911missinglinks.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxnpujfanUM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeggPSL3gQs

    Yeh I agree that the AmericanNon-Jews are indeed American “GOYISHE KUP” or “STUPID CATTLE”!

    The Israeli Defense Firm That Tallies The Iowa Caucus
    By Christopher Bollyn
    1-1-8

    The Iowa caucus is only a few days away and the nation’s attention will be directed to the results, which signify the beginning of the U.S. presidential race. But does anyone watch who tallies the results of the Iowa caucus?

    The Iowa caucus results were tallied in 2004 by a company that is headed by a man whose company was bought by Elron Electronics, the Israeli defense firm. I suspect that it will be the same this year. Don’t expect to see any grassroots political activists doing the tally in Iowa. The Israeli defense establishment takes care of that part of the American “democratic” election process.

    VOXEO

    In the summer of 2004, I first learned that a foreign and out-of-state company using Interactive Voice Response (IVR) technology tallied the Iowa caucus results.

    The system used to tally the 2004 Iowa caucus results was provided by a company called Voxeo, which was apparently based in Orlando, Florida. (Yellow flag goes up in the mind of those familiar with Orlando and electronic vote fraud history

  11. More says:

    Zionazis are not only terrorist, they also cheat

  12. Brandy Hektner says:

    I must say I do like the price

  13. Jack says:

    Wrong. first of all, anyone saying the word “kike”, should google the author who wrote this “story”, his name is Gordon Duff and if you do a search of “Gordon Duff Jewish”, you will find that he is of partial jewish ancestry. Im not kidding, they say so on stormfront and other white nationalist sites.

    This story was debunked at stormfront, which not only exposed Duff as part jewish but noted that in the sources Duff used NOWHERE did it mention Israel. HE was the one who inserted israel into the article. Don’t get me wrong- I’m anti zionist, but making up bull S claims that have absolutely no evidence to back you up will only diecredit your own movement.

    It was also debunked at the irandefence forums, by antizionists. If moderators and contributers at stormfront.org which is run by anti zionists like David Duke and Don black and moderators at irandefence are calling BS on this claim that Israel sold missles to china, then it is BS.

    http://tisfoon.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=68663&page=5

    mustavaris at irandefence-

    “No, they were not “fireworks”. The German word (Rakete) used in the papers can mean guided missile, non-guided artillery rocket, space rocket or fireworks. Learn some languages before making funny claims.

    There was a minor misunderstanding when dealing with German papers (translation issue, later corrected by Finnish and German officials) and the real problem: Finnish officials were not informed about this weapons transfer and (inter)national regulations were violated, causing confiscation of the undeclared cargo.

    I have no idea from where you have picked up that PAC-3 claim. Finnish military has not said a thing about their subtype and the ship´s papers are not public either. We do not even know where the missiles are now.”

    from GER_Mark at iran defence .net=

    “#1wrong
    israel doesnt have pac 3

    #2wrong
    germany has pac 3

    #3wrong
    the missiles were sold from german stocks to south korea

    #4wrong
    the ship headed for south korea before reaching shanghai

    #5wrong
    the paperst were correct as the finish dude above said

    #6wrong
    it are pac 2 missiles and not pac 3”

    http://tisfoon.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=68663&page=6

    mustavaris=

    “+ The “Rakete” were going to South Korea (even) according to the ship´s papers. The paperwork was perfect (South Korean and German officials knew about the cargo, the shipping company had papers too) excluding the fact that the Finnish authorities were not informed and permission to use our harbour for this operation was not asked. The three parties have blamed each other for not doing their part of the duties when explanation was required by the Finnish authorities.”

    http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t855124-2/

    from “Jack Boot” “Editor and Stormfront Chief of Staff” on Gordon Duff’s claim regarding alleged sale of israeli patriot issles to China-

    “We’ve edited the headline to reflect more accurately the facts at hand, to wit: it’s just a claim by this Gordon Duff fellow, with absolutely no evidence to back it up.”

    another stormfronter- Harumphty Dumpty

    “What is the EVIDENCE so far of any ISRAELI involvement? What is the EVIDENCE so far that the missiles were bound for China and not SOUTH KOREA?”

    http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t855124-5/

    “Harumphty Dumpty “=

    1. Can anyone show a single shred of evidence, or a single “report” other than Duff’s assertion, that Israel has any connection at all to these missiles?

    2. Can anyone find any reference to “fireworks” other than Duff’s assertion or copies of Duff’s assertion?

    3. Can anyone adduce any evidence, such as “reports” other than Duff’s assertion or copies of Duff’s assertion, that the missiles were destined for China rather than for South Korea?

    Keep in mind that stormfront is a white nationalist forum ang highly against jews and zionism. If even a stormfronter is saying that this story is BS, then its BS and purely a product of Gordon Duff’s imagination.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/23/us-china-finland-missiles-idUSTRE7BM0D520111223

    “China denies link with missiles seized in Finland”

    “As far as we know these goods were made in Germany and were being sent to South Korea. This is a British ship which left Germany carrying Patriot missiles for South Korea,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin told a daily news briefing.

    Some reports have said the missiles were destined for China, but Liu said that was not the case.

    http://www.defensenews.com/article/20111223/DEFSECT04/112230302/China-Rejects-Link-to-Patriot-Missiles-in-Finland

    “China Rejects Link to Patriot Missiles in Finland”

    Germany’s defense ministry has said the missiles came from its military and were destined for South Korea. A spokesman said the shipment was a “legal sale on the basis of an accord between two states at the government level”.

    http://news.yahoo.com/germany-impounded-patriot-missiles-were-legit-163241591.html

    Germany: Impounded Patriot missiles were legit

    HELSINKI (AP) — A shipment of 69 surface-to-air missiles impounded by Finnish authorities was a legitimate delivery from Germany to South Korea, a German official said Thursday.

  14. Jack says:

    this story is wrong. first of all, I am an anti zionist and I will explain below why this story is wrong before anyone misunderstands me.

    anyone saying the word “kike”, should google the author who wrote this “story”, his name is Gordon Duff and if you do a search of “Gordon Duff Jewish”, you will find that he is of partial jewish ancestry. Im not kidding, they say so on stormfront and other white nationalist sites. He deliberately writes sensationalist stuff with no proof or evidence which ends up making us (anti zionists) look bad.

    This story was debunked at stormfront, which not only exposed Duff as part jewish but noted that in the sources Duff used NOWHERE did it mention Israel. HE was the one who inserted israel into the article. Don’t get me wrong- I’m anti zionist, but making up bull S claims that have absolutely no evidence to back you up will only diecredit your own movement.

    It was also debunked at the irandefence forums, by antizionists. If moderators and contributers at stormfront.org which is run by anti zionists like David Duke and Don black and moderators at irandefence are calling BS on this claim that Israel sold missles to china, then it is BS.

    http://tisfoon.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=68663&page=5

    mustavaris at irandefence-

    “No, they were not “fireworks”. The German word (Rakete) used in the papers can mean guided missile, non-guided artillery rocket, space rocket or fireworks. Learn some languages before making funny claims.

    There was a minor misunderstanding when dealing with German papers (translation issue, later corrected by Finnish and German officials) and the real problem: Finnish officials were not informed about this weapons transfer and (inter)national regulations were violated, causing confiscation of the undeclared cargo.

    I have no idea from where you have picked up that PAC-3 claim. Finnish military has not said a thing about their subtype and the ship´s papers are not public either. We do not even know where the missiles are now.”

    from GER_Mark at iran defence .net=

    “#1wrong
    israel doesnt have pac 3

    #2wrong
    germany has pac 3

    #3wrong
    the missiles were sold from german stocks to south korea

    #4wrong
    the ship headed for south korea before reaching shanghai

    #5wrong
    the paperst were correct as the finish dude above said

    #6wrong
    it are pac 2 missiles and not pac 3”

    http://tisfoon.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=68663&page=6

    mustavaris=

    “+ The “Rakete” were going to South Korea (even) according to the ship´s papers. The paperwork was perfect (South Korean and German officials knew about the cargo, the shipping company had papers too) excluding the fact that the Finnish authorities were not informed and permission to use our harbour for this operation was not asked. The three parties have blamed each other for not doing their part of the duties when explanation was required by the Finnish authorities.”

    http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t855124-2/

    from “Jack Boot” “Editor and Stormfront Chief of Staff” on Gordon Duff’s claim regarding alleged sale of israeli patriot issles to China-

    “We’ve edited the headline to reflect more accurately the facts at hand, to wit: it’s just a claim by this Gordon Duff fellow, with absolutely no evidence to back it up.”

    another stormfronter- Harumphty Dumpty

    “What is the EVIDENCE so far of any ISRAELI involvement? What is the EVIDENCE so far that the missiles were bound for China and not SOUTH KOREA?”

    http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t855124-5/

    “Harumphty Dumpty “=

    1. Can anyone show a single shred of evidence, or a single “report” other than Duff’s assertion, that Israel has any connection at all to these missiles?

    2. Can anyone find any reference to “fireworks” other than Duff’s assertion or copies of Duff’s assertion?

    3. Can anyone adduce any evidence, such as “reports” other than Duff’s assertion or copies of Duff’s assertion, that the missiles were destined for China rather than for South Korea?

    Keep in mind that stormfront is a white nationalist forum ang highly against jews and zionism. If even a stormfronter is saying that this story is BS, then its BS and purely a product of Gordon Duff’s imagination.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/23/us-china-finland-missiles-idUSTRE7BM0D520111223

    “China denies link with missiles seized in Finland”

    “As far as we know these goods were made in Germany and were being sent to South Korea. This is a British ship which left Germany carrying Patriot missiles for South Korea,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin told a daily news briefing.

    Some reports have said the missiles were destined for China, but Liu said that was not the case.

    http://www.defensenews.com/article/20111223/DEFSECT04/112230302/China-Rejects-Link-to-Patriot-Missiles-in-Finland

    “China Rejects Link to Patriot Missiles in Finland”

    Germany’s defense ministry has said the missiles came from its military and were destined for South Korea. A spokesman said the shipment was a “legal sale on the basis of an accord between two states at the government level”.

    http://news.yahoo.com/germany-impounded-patriot-missiles-were-legit-163241591.html

    Germany: Impounded Patriot missiles were legit

    HELSINKI (AP) — A shipment of 69 surface-to-air missiles impounded by Finnish authorities was a legitimate delivery from Germany to South Korea, a German official said Thursday.
    _____________________________________________________________
    The second thing that exposes Gordon Duff is that he uses the classic neocon technique of trying to link the Soviet Union (a strongly anti zionist country) to the Jews. The Soviet Union supported palestinian resistance groups like PFLP and George Habash and Wadie Haddad

    Colonel Nasser imported tons of weapons and soviet help to build the aswan high dam, and Hafez al assad said “We regret the Soviet collapse more than the Russians do.”

    Don’t believe the Jew Gordon Duff’s lies. He is both making up crap which makes anti zionists look bad, and he is smearing the anti zionist soviets.

  15. Jack says:

    I will give you another sample of Gordon Duff’s rants in which he attacks Iran (he claims there is a secret conspiracy between Iran and Israel to go to war to stabilize oil prices?!) and he views the Iranian government as corrupt as Israel

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/10/27/breaking-iran-and-israel-caught-partnering-in-attack-ploy/

    “It is meant to stabilize both the Iranian and Israeli governments, both of which have strong opposition at home and face charges of corruption and to correct major regional financial disaster each confront.

    The “deal” between Israel and Iran is much closer to something out of the Sopranos than normal international relations.”
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    his fellow writer Mike Harris at his website veterans today think there is an evil “conspiracy” beteen Iran and China to steal american technology, and that China helped Iran take down the drone.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/10/the-great-chinese-iranian-stealth-reconnaissance-drone-theft-caper/

    These guys are no friend to anti zionists.

  16. frig says:

    @Jack

    I agree with what you are saying, but I think you mean “paleocon” instead of “neocon”. There are some paleocons who may hate zionism, but are also islamophobic and racist to Arabs, like Pat Buchanan, I think Gordon Duff is one of them. They are mainly anti Israel due to their America first position, and against the damage Israel is doing to America, rather than their concern for palestinians.

    Example of Pat Buchanan’s islamophobia. These Paleocons hate Israel just because of what it does to America, not what it does to Palestine.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53mABYulm_U

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F1Gxk6TgSk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ_KWJD6f2g

  17. NC says:

    One question: How does one know that the US was not complicit in this? Because the neocons are also quite cozy with China.

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